Manchester Community Council

PO Box 173

Manchester, WA  98353-0173

“it’s a great place to live…”

 

Minutes of the Manchester Community Council meeting of 11/23/04


Action Items:

1)     If you are interested in being a member of a sub-committee exploring the options with the Haida property, contact Council Secretary John Winslow.

2)      2005 dues for voting members are payable to Treasurer Carol Kowalski by February 1.

3)      Ron Robinson will chair the next regular meeting on January 25th.

 

Minutes:

The meeting was called to order by Chairman, Bob Ballard at 6:33PM in the Manchester Library.  Bob welcomed the 38 people in attendance and then introduced our special speaker for the evening, Bill Zupancic who is a Transportation Planner for the County Public Works department, as well as a 26 year Manchester resident!  Bill’s remarks covered the planning behind the Mosquito Fleet Trail.

Guest Speakers comments:


The Mosquito Fleet Trail plan is detailed in “The Mosquito Fleet Trail Master Plan” document which was published in August 2001.  Back-up data is contained in a separate appendix document.  Bill promised to have additional copies made available at future MCC meetings.  The plan was an outgrowth of the 1995 Kitsap County Greenway Plan (copy should be available in the Library).  Essential elements of the Greenway Plan were Transportation, Recreation, Scenic resources, and Natural resources.  As an outgrowth of the Plan, in 1996 the planning process began for the Mosquito Fleet Trail.  In a poll of the population, it was determined that the eastern shore of Kitsap County was a favored recreational destination of residents.  The goal was to provide a continuous pedestrian/bike trail from Southworth to Kingston. 


As the Mosquito Fleet Trail concept developed, its route ended up connecting four cities, 17 communities, 11 schools, and 24 historic docks.  One significant impetus to the creation of pedestrian paths and bikeways was a 1992 Federal Grant to encourage their development.


The implementation of such a vast plan is handled through the County’s planning process which is grouped into six year segments.  In years 0-6 the emphasis is on paving and constructing road shoulders, re-striping, and adding bike route signage where the bike path standards are currently met.  At this point, years 7-20 will focus on the path development.


In our area, the current proposal is to have the path along Beach Drive to Main Street in Manchester, and out of town on Colchester Drive.  This would continue on Mile Hill and on to Southworth Drive to the ferry terminal.  Bill mentioned that there will be a public meeting on this subject at the South Colby Methodist Church on December 1.  At this point, there are no plans to make significant changes along Colchester in the 6-12 year planning range.


Along the Trail there will be differing types of pathways depending on constraints of existing conditions, these include Separated trails (Costly, but best), Bicycle lanes (has designated striped lane), Bike routes (widened shoulders), and shared roadways (no shoulder).


At the conclusion of his remarks on the Mosquito Fleet Trail, Bill was asked if he would address the issue of the property near Haida which is owned by Public Works and has gotten recent attention in the press.  Bill’s first remark was that any change to the way the property is used is up to the community.  It is currently a reserve tract which is being used by Public Works as a storm drain easement.  The Parks Department had recently transferred the property to SSWM’s and is now under control of the Public Works Department.  Public Works is willing to listen to proposals from the community.  He commented that currently, less than 2% of the shoreline in Kitsap County is accessible to the public.  There are, however, liability and risk issues involved.


If a community group wished to pursue changes to such a parcel, there would necessarily be an open discussion with the entire community impacted by such a change.  There are no public funds available to support any such changes to these properties.  The Public Works Department has recently asked County Risk Management to look into liability and risk issues, especially associated with the rock lined ditch on this property. 


Several members of the audience provided first hand knowledge of the potential for rapidly growing water volumes in the swale during heavy storm events.  This was a major concern by many of the adjoining property owners in attendance.


Bill was also asked what the definition of “Pocket Park” was, since that term had been used several times in reference to potential changes to the parcel.  Bill described that term to generally mean a place where bicyclists and pedestrians could have a rest stop, but by no means was the County promoting that concept.


Another audience member asked about the likelihood of a sewage pump station being located within this property.  Paul Gilligan, a member of the audience and a civil engineer working with the LID #8 group, mentioned that this property is the most likely spot for a pump station should sewers be extended down along Colchester that far.  Such a sewer pump station would likely require a footprint of approximately 12’ diameter.


Bill stated that Public Works does not build trails on public rights-of-way.  If the community wanted to pursue some level of development, Public Works would provide a survey, but would insist that no significant trees be removed and the community would have to maintain the improvements and provide trash removal.  Any development would have to follow the steps of a public hearing with a wide-distribution mailing to affected property owners.


A contingent of adjoining neighbors uniformly expressed their concerns about their safety and the security of the property if there were any improvements made.  They don’t want to have an enthusiastic group make a number of improvements and then fade away and leave the neighbors to deal with the consequences of neglect.  This group expressed the desire to let the public use Pomeroy Park and leave this parcel for limited use only by the existing neighbors who currently use the property as a beach access.  It was mentioned that in the recent past, some Boy Scouts have performed limited clearing of pathways on the property.  A very informal vote of those in attendance was taken regarding having any development of the Haida property; the tabulation of votes indicated four in favor, 16 opposed, and the remaining 18 abstained.


Chairman Bob Ballard then wrapped up the discussion with a perspective on Council’s interest in the parcel.  The Council was formed as a goal of the original Manchester Sub-Area Plan (available on the Kitsap County web-site).  The Council is exploring the options with this parcel since it was specifically mentioned in the Plan (Page 32 “To improve the awareness and functionality of the park…”).  The Council realizes the limitations of this parcel and don’t currently anticipate and significant developments.  We have an obligation to explore the options and community interest in this property since it is specifically mentioned in the Plan.  As a community we can also offer suggestions for changes to the Plan if the community deems that desirable.  The Council wants involvement and participation in the process by the entire Manchester community.


Subsequent to the conclusion of the meeting, the Executive Board held a wrap-up discussion and realized that we neglected to seek volunteers for a sub-committee to further discuss and outline a course of action (or inaction) on the Haida property.  If you are interested in participating in a sub-committee to investigate potential recommendations for how the property can best fit the community’s desires, please contact the Council Secretary, John Winslow.  No sub-committee has been formed as yet.  All potential sub-committee members are encouraged to attend the 1/25 regular meeting.  John can be reached at johnwinslo@aol.com, or via our Manchester Community Council, PO Box 173 in Manchester (98353-0173).  A separate meeting of this group will be arranged at the Library and all of those interested in participating in the process will be invited.

Business meeting:


Review and approval of past meeting’s minutes:
The minutes for the 10/26/04 meeting have been previously distributed by e-mail and were posted in the Library.  The minutes were approved as written.

 

Correspondence: There was no correspondence.

 

Reports:

Treasurer: Carol Kowalski reported that our October balance forward was $20, expenses included a receipt book and financial ledger for a total of $8.55, and dues payments of $105 for a current balance of $116.45.

 

Sewers Sub-Committee: Ron Rada, chairman of the sub-committee, reported that LID#8 is continuing work on the sewer extension along Miracle Mile.  They have over 51% favorable response and at this point it would take a 40% unfavorable response to discontinue the efforts.  The group will be sending out a mailing to all those in the Sub-Area who are not currently within a sewer service area (approx 500-1000 parcels) to measure interest in further extension of the sewer lines.  The entire letter was read and the motion to endorse the letter was approved.


There was some discussion by an audience member who has been struggling with a failing septic system; he expressed his frustration at having invested considerable monies at the behest of the County to correct his septic system and only now he’s learning of the efforts to extend the sewers.  The Committee is sympathetic to the situation, but unfortunately the County is not a significant player in the effort to extend the sewers and no one can predict the timing or likelihood of extensions.  Any sewer extensions will necessitate the formation of LID’s through the efforts of citizen groups.  The Committee is just trying to provide a mechanism for individuals to form into groups to assess local interest.

 

Crime Prevention Sub-Committee: Bud Larsen, chairman of the sub-committee reported on efforts underway by his group.  Their focus has been on increased law enforcement and presence in Manchester.  They meet weekly at the Manchester Inn on Thursday mornings at (brace yourself!) 6:45 AM.  The group has had regular guest speakers at their meetings including Sheriff Boyer, CentCom staff, the Fuel Depot civilian manager, and several officers from the Sheriff’s office.  The group has been discussing means to get a more visible presence of the Sheriff in our community by promoting a way-station in Manchester where the deputies could do their paperwork.  Future guest speakers will include the Fire Chief on December 9 and Dusty Wiley of the Traffic Department on December 16.


Additionally, they are promoting the formation of blockwatches (approximately five currently exist or are in formation in central Manchester).  More information on this can be found on the MCA web-site, www.manchesterca.org.


As a way of promoting the relationship between the sheriff and the community, plans are underway to have a public safety booth at the annual Salmon Bake on Father’s Day with officers and equipment on display and an opportunity for fingerprinting children.


One audience member suggested that it may be beneficial to promote having officers who live in the area, but work for another police agency, be allowed to drive their cars home at night to deter crime.

 

Public Facilities Sub-Committee: Bob Lamb, chairman of the sub-committee on Public Facilities gave a brief report on his group’s progress to-date.  Their efforts have been directed at exploring the potential options for the vacant property at the intersection of Colchester and Main.  At this point, the committee has been unable to reach the property owner.  This group is not involved with the Haida property.

 

Old Business:

Action items:  JB Bartel reported that she is proceeding with development of official letterhead for the Committee.  She needs a good digital photo of the view from Manchester that captures the uniqueness of our area.

            
Dues were discussed by the Executive Board in a meeting on 11/18 and based on projected expenses (meeting room, PO Box, and minimal printing and postage) and estimating likely membership, it was decided that the dues payable on January 1 would be $20 per year per voting member.  Dues for existing members are considered delinquent after February 1, 2005.  (New members dues are payable IN FULL upon joining as a voting member.  Those COMMUNITY MEMBERS attending for information only, and not voting, are not required to pay dues.  DUES FOR THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR MEMBERSHIP ARE NOT PRORATED.)  Contact Carol Kowalski to arrange for your dues payment (or mail to the Committee’s PO Box).

            
Due to a room scheduling conflict, the meeting previously planned for December 21 is cancelled.

 

New Business: Subsequent to the meeting, Chairman Bob Ballard mentioned he would be unavailable to run the next meeting.  First Vice Chair Ron Robinson will substitute for Bob in his absence.

There being no other discussion from the floor, Chairman Ballard adjourned the meeting at  8:32 PM.

 

Next Meeting: Our next meeting will be Tuesday January 25th at 6:30-8:30PM in the Manchester Library. 


Ron Robinson and John Winslow will jointly develop an agenda for our next meeting
for distribution with the reminder, several days before the meeting.  At this point the tentative agenda includes a presentation by a representative of the Department of Community Development on the proposed review of the Sub-Area Plan scheduled for 2006 (At our meeting, this was mentioned as 2005, but the County clarified that it really is 2006).  If you have any additional items for the agenda, contact John Winslow prior to January 18th.

 

Respectfully submitted,

John Winslow, Secretary-Manchester Community Council