“it’s
a great place to live…”
Action Items: None
Minutes:
The meeting was called by
Please note that the County's deputy clerk
was present and tape recorded the entire meeting. The official transcript and recording will be
posted on the County website in the very near future. This copy is provided to our membership to
allow a quick understanding of generally what was said at the meeting.
At 6:29PM, Commissioner Jan Angel welcomed the approximate 65 people
(including about 35 current members) in attendance and then introduced Scott
Diener (sdiener@co.kitsap.wa.us), DCD Community Planning Manager, who will take
the lead on working with the community on developing revisions to the Plan.
Scott said the realistic goal for completing the proposed changes to
the Plan will be October 1, 2007. He
provided copies of the original plan (less color maps) and mentioned that the
Plan is also available on the County web-site.
Diener asked for a show of hands of those attending who lived within the
boundaries of
In revising the Plan, the County intends to facilitate the effort and
provide guidance, but the actual Plan must be produced by the community. With the available time, this effort will
need to be on a fast-track for completion so it is ready to present to the
Commissioners for approval in December 2007.
The role of County staff is to assist and facilitate the re-write and to
ensure the text is legally sound, and meets the County code and the Growth
Management Act.
One of the documents available at the meeting was a definition of
Limited Area of More Intensive Rural Development (LAMIRD’s).
Linda Bently of DCD was introduced and she mentioned that she agreed
that review of all the sections of the original Plan was appropriate and some
updating would be required. At this
point the meeting was opened to input from community members.
Carrilu Thompson: The County helped us on developing the original
Plan. We need large group meetings of
representing all sections of the review to add cohesion and then we can break
into individual discussion groups. The
original Plan fell short on achieving legality of the points made in the Plan.
Lyle Burbidge: I’m concerned about the vision not being adhered
to. There is too much effort at
developing condos without considering the impact on roads and
infrastructure. The Plan had no teeth;
it stated that the mixed development should be two-stories high, and we got
three-stories. We have heard that up to
16 condo developments are coming into the
Jan Angel made the observation that the Plan probably had good
intentions, but was not enforceable.
Carole Leininger: I agree with Lyle, and feel betrayed. We have a Design Standards committee which is
currently working on developing standards for the Manchester Commercial
district. If I wanted to live in
Jeff Miller: I thought this meeting was to discuss
Leslie Hassitt: I live outside the community of
Mark Rebelowski: I live in an existing condo in
JB Bartel: I spent 18 month working on the original Plan. The residential and commercial 28 and 35
building height limitations along with 60% permeable surface standards were
purposefully included in the plan.
Unfortunately, we missed on enforcement of those standards. The County needs to put teeth into the new
Plan standards. Also, traffic is the
pits during the summer, the County needs to do their traffic analysis when
Bob Lamb: When the Plan was conceived, we all agreed on the goals. Most actions since then have not agreed with
the vision. We need help on enforcing
our vision.
Bud Larsen: My primary concern is with traffic; I’m now working
directly with the Sheriff and the County staff on reducing truck traffic,
particularly where sharp turns are required.
Also, stormwater management is one of my concerns; the County wanted to
put the discharge above grade on the beach.
Such a discharge takes away the limited recreational area we have and
adds to pollution of the waters.
Denise Burbidge: I am very proud of the agreement we have on a vision
for
Richard Brown: The Commissioners need to fight for the future County
codes which will be the teeth in any Plan.
How can we encourage property owners to develop responsibly? Get what you recommend by ensuring the County
can enforce the goals.
Jan Angel interjected, that we need to include view protection in the
update of the Plan to allow enforcement.
Ron Rada: The Plan recommended the formation of a Community Council. A Council was formed and has been meeting
monthly for the last two years, but apparently has no teeth with the
Commissioners. The efforts of these many
people are going unheard.
Jan Angel commented that there are now two Councils appointed by the Commissioners,
although these represent urban growth areas and the Commissioners will have to
consider whether we should form more Councils.
Jan then realized that Suquamish also has an appointed Council, and that
will have a bearing on the decision.
Ron Rada continues: We are exasperated with the (lack of) enforcement
of the Plan goals. The Commissioners
need a moratorium on commercial project approvals by the Department of
Community Development until the Plan is updated. The group developing the original Plan made a
concerted effort to keep the Commercial District limited in size.
Bob Lamb mentioned that he has a friend who is a member of the
Silverdale Council and he finds it to be very effective, it works well.
Debby Trudeau: In regards to acknowledging the Manchester Council, we
need to insure that all geographical areas of
With no further input from the community, Scott said that sign-up lists
were on a table in the room and those interested in participating in the
re-write of the plan should sign-up.
Scott said the next steps will begin with a meeting to be held on March
20th in the Commissioners Chambers.
Information from tonight’s meeting will be posted on the County web-site
with both notes and audio coverage. He
will also develop a schedule of activities which will allow completion on
schedule. Each committee will choose
their own leader/spokesperson and deadlines will be critical.
Carrilu Thompson requested that the meetings format have a general
gathering of all participants with the groups then breaking-out into
sub-committees. She went on to say that
we need help from the County with the enforcement side of the project that will
give our goals some teeth.
JB Bartel asked for more input on County regulations and how they
matched the proposed Plan changes to insure compatibility.
Lyle Burbidge then asked what the possibility is of there being a
moratorium on approval of new projects during the Plan re-write.
With that, there was no further input from the community and Scott said
that the goals presented tonight were not insurmountable and invited all to the
next meeting on March 20th.
The meeting was concluded at about 8PM. The next meeting of the Plan review group will be Tuesday March 20th at 6:30PM in the Commissioners’ Chambers.
Our next regular MCC meeting will be Tuesday March
27th at 6:30-8:30PM in the Manchester Library.
Ron Rada and
John Winslow will jointly develop an agenda for our next meeting for distribution with the
reminder, several days before the meeting.
If you have any additional items for the agenda, contact John Winslow prior
to March 20th.
Respectfully
submitted,
John
Winslow, Member-at-Large: